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Lulu vs. Ka-Blam

Posted in Publishing on April 29, 2008 by Nick

Before I get too far into this, let me first explain a few things about how I do drafts of Tiny Life.

After everything is written and drawn and inked and scanned and toned and lettered, I try to print a proof for myself to see how well it looks on paper versus how well it looks on screen.  I’ve tried doing it at Kinko’s, but it costs a shitload of money (literally.  I asked the guy how much it would cost to print a 20-page black and white pamphlet with color covers and he said, “Take a poop in your pants.  That’s how much”).  I’ve also tried calling around to various printing houses and it either costs about $100 or it’s free as long as you’re also printing a few thousand copies for distribution.  At that point, I turned to the internet and found on-demand printing houses.

The best two I’ve found are Lulu and Ka-Blam; others, like Comicxpress have limited options and poor service.  Instead of a long diatribe on each company, I figured I’d give you a point-by-point breakdown on the important issues:

1) Lulu’s interface is simple to use.  Basically, after you’re done making a page (using Photoshop, Manga Studio, or simply scanning your originals as-is), you just upload it to their service.  After you’re done, you can switch around pages, save the files to their servers for later use (which is awesome is you’re looking to make a TPB later), or reload a page if you’ve found a mistake. 

Ka-Blam’s interface is simple once you’re used to it, but it takes a while to understand it.  What you have to do is save all your files, then name them as pages in the comic (meaning, “cover.tif”, insidefrontcover.tif”, “page1.tif”, “page2.tif”, etc.)  Then you have to save them as a zip file.  Then you have to save them somewhere on the internet so that the Ka-Blam people can get to them.  If you want to change just one thing – for instance, I spelled “parents” as “parants” in one issue – you have to do the whole process over again.

2) Turnaround time for Lulu is fairly quick.  Usually, after I upload the comic to their servers, I can get a copy in my hands in a little over a week.

Turnaround time for Ka-Blam depends on how much you’re willing to pay.  If you pay a premium, they say you can get it in just a few days.  I paid the basic fee and got mine in about three weeks.  This is perfect it you’re planning on completing five issues before publishing anything.

3) The cost for Lulu is outrageous.  It costs more than $5.00 to print a 20-page comic.  If you order several hundred, the cost moves down to just under $5.00 per book.  They do, however, have a pretty good deal if you’re making a huge book.  Tiny Life Demos, which includes pretty much all Tiny Life work until the 2008 publication, is more than 400 pages.  It costs like twelve bucks to print.

The cost for Ka-Blam is amazing.  It only costs like $1.40 per issue.  This is awesome compared to pretty much any other printing house in North America (I’ve found cheaper in Hong Kong, but it’ll cost you another $20 to ship it over) – if you’re only looking to print a handful of issues, that is.  This isn’t the best place to go if you’re looking for anything more than about 500 copies.  Once you hit bulk like that, it’s time to make some phone calls.  If you send out comp copies or multiple proofs, Ka-Blam is the place to go.

4)  I only do black and white, so I can only speak for grayscale and grayscale users.  In Lulu, black is BLACK and white is WHITE.  This means that there are often bleeds on some of the lines (meaning that the line is thicker in some areas than I had intended) and the crosshatching can often bleed together making the page look a bit murky.  The tones (the “dots”), however, look pretty good.  I was very afraid that you might see a pattern instead of the tones (i.e.: it looks like a plaid sweater as opposed to a gray sweater that is in a dark room), but Lulu is very good about keeping their inks fresh.

In Ka-Blam, the lines do not bleed.  Every thickness of every line is intact.  However, I think because they use gray tones instead of strictly black (just a hypothesis), some of the dots interact at odd angles and a pattern sometimes emerges (the plaid sweater thing). 

Ka-Blam Print
Lulu Print

5) Lulu prints a product that feels like a magazine.  It has a heavy paper (both on the cover and on the internal pages) and you can actually feel the ink impressions on the inside. 

Ka-Blam feels like a comic.  It has a comic-stock cover (70 lb., I think) and the internal pages are slightly better than newsprint (which is what I designed Tiny Life to be printed on).

Overall, here’s what I recommend:

Use Lulu to print proof copies.  If you’re just printing one in order to find mistakes or to “see what it looks like,” then Lulu is your best shot.  It’s quick, it’s efficient, but you have to keep in mind that your inking my look a little worse through this company and you have to keep in mind that if you order more than one or two copies, it’s just gonna piss you off (I ordered 10 copies one time and it cost like $60).

Use Ka-Blam if you’re all done with your drafts and you want to show other people.  If you’re going to a small show (like SPX or SPACE) and want to sell a few copies, then Ka-Blam is your best shot.  I think I’ll also be using it for back issue stock as well (that way I don’t have to order another “recommended” 20% of each issue and then store them forever).

What to do…

Posted in Publishing on April 24, 2008 by Nick

I finally got my order from lulu and have sent it in to Diamond.  It’s been about a week and a half and still no word on whether or not they’ll carry Tiny Life.

It’s a bit scary.  I mean, I think the writing is good enough, and I think the art is good enough, and I think I’ve done just about everything I can do to promote the book; there’s not really a whole left for me to do except wait.

My plan for Tiny Life involves making a few books simultaneously so that I can get it out as fast as possible.  I don’t want to start that until I know it will be easily distributed and available.  I also plan on making supplemental material for the website to help enhance everyone’s understanding and enjoyment of the basic concepts of Tiny Life (it also permits me to be a little more creative and abstract than the book allows). However, I also don’t want to start that until I know it will be easily distributed and available. 

So what can I do? 

I’ve been working on this book in some capacity for about 15 years.  I’ve been working on it daily for the past three years (or is it four?).  I don’t know what to do with myself.  I suppose I could work on the rewrite of the first five issues of the next book.  Or maybe look into the legality of including ee cummings “l(a” poem on the website and in the trade paperback.  I suppose I could even work on my inking just in case I hire some more pencilers and I have to trace everything to make it look “Nick Jones cartoony.”

But, like I said in my first post, this is my Last Big Push.  If this doesn’t work, I’m hanging it up. 

So, instead, I’ve been fixing my driveway, finishing my basement and working on a website for my students. 

I’ve also been catching up on TV watching.  Did you know that The Drew Carey Show is fucking hilarious? 

Review the Fourth

Posted in Publishing on April 11, 2008 by Nick

I think this is the final day for preemptive reviews.  I have about 15 more sitting around, but they mostly say something along the lines of, “Wow!  Nice job!” or “I don’t git it.”  So, instead of saying, “Thank you” or “Suck it,” I figured I would just have a few that actually have something to say.

Like this one from Steve (I believe; he didn’t leave his name) from Clifton Comics in Cincinatti, OH:

I don’t know that the stick figure will be very appealing.  I mean, I still remember Stick Figure Theater on Liquid Television, which was great.  With Tiny Life, it feels like a Radiohead music video, but I can’t see people really throwing down money it.  It might be helpful if you produce a less than $1 preview, pointing out why it’s important to get on board, what makes the stick figure idea work.  But honestly, as it is now, I can’t say that I’m interested.

Clifton Comics and Games

  3234 Jefferson Ave Cincinnati, Ohio 45220

  (513) 861-5071

  www.cliftoncomics.com

  cliftoncomics@yahoo.com

Honestly, this is the one judgment I fear.  I dread the idea of people simply looking at Tiny Life, saying to themselves, “A stick figure?  What a load,” and putting it back down (to tell the truth, that’s one of the main reasons why I try so hard to make the backgrounds look so toned and crosshatched.  I don’t want it to look like a “stick figure comic.”  I want it to look like a comic with a stick figure in it). 

To explain “why a stick figure” would take quite a bit of time; it involves talking about the inception of the character, the progression of humorous stories to serious ones, and how I came to the conclusion of having Jed be the only stick figure in the book.  I’ll shorten it and say that I could’ve made the main character anything out of the ordinary; it’s a variation on the “funny animal” motif of Howard the Duck, Bone, and Cerebus.  So, I guess, instead of a stick figure, I could’ve made him a platypus; those are funny-lookin.’  However, I didn’t think anyone had ever done a sincere comic about a stick-figure before. 

And I honestly don’t think that there are more people who would put back a stick figure book than people who would put back a funny animal book.

Review the Third

Posted in Publishing on April 10, 2008 by Nick

If this is your first time here, I’m offering you a chance to read not-so-solicited reviews of the Tiny Life Preview.  I’m not just giving the good reviews like so many newcomers tend to do (“If people think that everyone likes it, they’ll buy more!”  It’s the Everybody Loves Raymond syndrome).  I’m posting any review that catches my eye.

This one is from Jay at Happy Harbor Comics in Alberta:

Nick,

The first thing I noticed was that the really old woman didn’t look all that old.  No wrinkles on her face.  If she had died a dozen times, she should look more like it.

The story reads very quickly without saying a lot, a pet peeve of mine with a lot of modern comics.  Pages of similar panels with tiny bits of exposition text that don’t really move the story forward or are redundant to setting mood that feel like pages are being wasted.  I appreciate the imagery but I really felt like I wasn’t getting much of a story from the preview and certainly not enough art to read as well.

I’m a bit old school but I like my stories to move briskly and I like lots of “visual” story to accompany the text to help enhance and overfill my reading.

Jay Bardyla, owner

HAPPY HARBOR COMICS

CANADA’S BEST COMIC STORE – 2007 Shuster Award

  EDMONTON’S BEST COMIC STORE – 2007 SEE Mag Poll

  GLOBAL RETAILER OF THE YEAR – 2007 Eisner Nominee

10112 – 124 Street, Edmonton, AB T5N 1P6

  Phone: 780-452-8211

Wed, Thurs & Fri – Noon to 9pm

  Sat, Sun & Mon – 10 am to 6 pm

  www.happyharborcomics.com

I thought about this review quite a bit.  If you’ll notice, it’s not as long as the other ones, but it seems to say just as much; it still seems like a punch in the gut (anytime anyone isn’t thrilled with Tiny Life – for as hard and as long as I’ve worked on it – I get a tiny tummy ache).  But then I read it a few times looking for separate points; really, Jay’s only got one: like many other comics nowadays, it moves too slow.  Dangnabbit.

I think Jay is of the Chester Gould School of comics: make it as fast and as interesting as possible.  After all, we are talking about comics here; it’s a child’s medium.  If I’m going to read a child’s book, it better damn well go as fast and as hard as possible.  To paraphrase others of like-mind, “It’s comics, stupid.  Keep it moving.”

See, I don’t think comics are necessarily for kids (or grown-ups who want to read material for kids – the Harry Potter crowd).  I think comics are whatever you make of them. 

One of the things I’m trying to do with Tiny Life is to turn comics into “legitimate” literature.  It’s been done on a small scale several times – Maus and Blankets both spring to mind – but I don’t think anyone’s really sat down with an entire series and said, “I want learned people to look at this and compare it to other works of literature.” 

See, I want people to look at Tiny Life and compare God & Country (the 2nd-to-last book to be published) to Paradise Lost.  I want people to look at some of the philosophy raised in Brain Damage / Eclipse (the 4th book to be published) and compare it to some of John Locke’s philosophies.  I want some of the ideas raised, especially in the first few books, to be compared to ideas raised by Ralph Ellison.  Most comic writers seem to really fear the comparison to well-known works of art (which boggles me.  Why wouldn’t you want to be compared to Da Vinci?).  A lot of the discussions I’ve seen revolve around “My Superman vs. Batman is just as good as Frank Miller’s, but it’s different.” 

Actually – and don’t tell anyone – I really don’t read comics that much anymore.  I’ve tried to stay away from the repeated scenarios and stereotypical potshots that many comics take. How many times have you heard, “If you’re not with me, you’re against me,” or a powerful hero (or villain) scream, “That’s enough!”?  I think, if you really think about it, the answer is higher than you care to relate. 

So, I guess to summarize, I disagree with Jay.  I think comics should move at their own pace.  And, when all is said and done, the work itself will tell you whether that pace was too fast, too slow, or just right.

Review the Second

Posted in Publishing on April 9, 2008 by Nick

For those of you just joining us, I’m trying to give a well-rounded set of opinions for Tiny Life.  I’ve gotten quite a few reviews, but most of them run in the monosyllabic category; “Cool!” or “Sucks!” are the most often used refrains.

So I’m trying to show you the constructive criticism I’ve received.

The next one comes from Charlie of Charlie’s Comics in Tucson AZ:

Dear Nick:

Man, I hope things will start looking up in the rest of the book; so far it’s pretty maudlin.  The main character is reminiscent of Dennis Worden’s ‘Stickboy’ while the art reminds me of some of Jeff Nicholson’s early work.  His current style ‘Colonia’, isn’t quite so heavily cross-hatched and pays more attention to backgrounds. 

Although the early work I’m thinking of, ‘Through the Habitrails’ did get an Eisner nomination, if not an award.  And it was a pretty depressing work too.

Writing is just a matter of creating three or more characters, establishing them, adding change and waiting to see what happens.  In the first eleven pages you’ve established a depressed character deep in a rut while introducing, albeit off camera, his siblings.  In an action adventure type story you’d want to start with the most exciting, adrenaline filled event in the book and go backwards or, preferably, forward from there.  In a more slice-of-life tale, which is, I think, what you’re going for, real life emotions are recognized and established more easily and therefore the pacing has to be higher through the narratives.  Ed Brubaker’s early auto-bio stories, before he became the big time writer he is now, when he had to draw his own stuff, paced the anecdotal tales so well that it worked, even though he didn’t win his first Eisner until he collaborated with an artist, Eric Shanower.  Joe Matt’s auto-bio stories were extremely depressing, but they were bizarre enough that they developed a following.  While Joe portrayed himself as self-absorbed, selfish, abusive and unlikable it was still entertaining to watch him betray his girlfriend to get some rare porn, which he obsessively edited, or an elusive reel for his Viewmaster collection.

Even though much of the eleven pages I read were solitary reflection, more backgrounds could add to your characterization and make the pages more interesting.  While the cross-hatching is effective as a substitute for using gray tones, and it fits well with the type of feathering you use in your artwork, it could get redundant fast.  If he’s going to sit and obsess at least give him a window so the reader can watch the time pass.   

I found the eleven pages intriguing but by the end of page nine I was ready for SOMETHING to happen; that ‘change’ that will motivate this self-pitying wreck of an individual.  The catalyst that usually breaks someone out of self pity is someone or something MORE pitiful..

I’ve been running a comic shop for over 23 years now, my own for over 7, I’ve helped quite a few of the locals get their stuff published and still end up lettering a lot of the locals, and have written reviews on and off for the Comic Buyer’s Guide for several years.  I hope my critique is helpful and not hurtful.  The fact that you’re working on issue five is promising and hopefully the story moves quickly in the upcoming pages and issues. 

Best of luck, Nick.  I’ll give your book a shot on the racks and if you’re ever in the Tucson area, stop in and sign some books.

I hope that you and yours are happy and healthy.

Peace,

Charlie

5445 E. 22nd Street

  Suite 115   Tucson, Arizona   85711 – 5405   http://www.charliescomics.com   PHONE: 520.320.0279  

This is probably the most insightful of the reviews I’ve gotten, so thank you for that.

It’s a pretty long letter, so let me talk about it point by point:

1. It’s interesting the first thing you said is “maudlin,” which implies a character’s problem with alcoholism.  In the eleven pages of the first preview and of the 10-or-so pages of the second preview, alcohol was mentioned once.  Although Jed’s father’s alcoholism is a factor in some of the story, ultimately, the only thing about it that really affects Jed is his choice not to drink (which you’ll see a little more in Our Short Years and possibly God & Country). 

2.  You mentioned a couple times that this is a depressing work (or at least compared it to other depressing works).  I don’t see it like that.  Although l(a does chronicle a lonely spot in Jed’s life, I don’t think I would consider it depressing.  This is really the point where Jed begins to wake up a little bit.  One of the themes of the entire series is that Jed has to learn to function on his own, and in this book he begins to do that.  Not as much as he will in Books 8 and 9, but still…

3.  You also compared Tiny Life to various autobiographical works.  I wish that I could take credit for everything that is about to happen to Jed.  Although some of it is quite tragic (losing his dad at 16 years old, for instance), a lot of it is astonishing and quite impossible.  However, some of it is based on my life, some of it is based on my friend’s life, and some of it is completely made up; I guess you can call it a biographical/autobiographical/fiction piece of prose.

4.  Your biggest point in the review is that I’ve set up a character, I’ve set up his situation, now I should make something happen (I thought more people would complain about this, but so far you’re the only one).  One of the designs of the series revolves around anticipation.  Once you’re done reading l(a, you want to know more about Jed’s past – was his dad the asshole Jed thinks he was, was his mom a saint, were his friends as close as he thinks, why do people around Jed seem to go insane – and you want to know more about his future – where will he go now, where is Dave, what will happen with his foster parents, what will happen with his friends, who is the narrator…  Basically, l(a is the “teaser” book; it’s the book that “hooks” you.  Granted, it’s not the most exciting, but I do believe it’s the most interesting place to start. 

Anyway, thanks, Charlie, for the compliments and advice. 

Review the First

Posted in Publishing on April 8, 2008 by Nick

I’ve already received several reviews on Tiny Life (mostly from retailers, but some from very important people like my mom and The Wife).  Most of them have been pretty mediocre.  Many of the reviews have consisted of nothing more than, “You rock!” or “Did you draw this?” 

So instead of including every review just to prove to people that Tiny Life is actually read, I’m only going to put a few on here.  A few good ones.  A few that compare Tiny Life to other works.  A few that actually have something to say.

  And no, unlike a lot of other guys starting out, I’m not just including the good ones.  I want to give you, the Awesome Reader, a rounded perspective.  I want to give you a good idea of what the book as about.  Aside from actually reading it, the best way to do that is to include all types of review.

And my rebuttal.

This first review comes from John Arnold at Comicopolis in Santa Cruz, CA:

Hello Nick,

John Arnold here, writing from Comicopolis in Santa Cruz, CA. You have conversed through email with my business partner, Troy, prior to this. I wanted to take this opportunity to weigh in with my thoughts on Tiny Life.

First off, I will let you know that, in addition to being a shop owner and a reader of comics for over 30 years, I am also a writer. I have just recently signed a contract with Top Shelf to publish an original Graphic Novel, due out in early 2009. I’ve been writing for many years, and writing specifically in comic script form for about 7 years. I tell you all this so you will have a better idea of where my comments are coming from.

So, with all that said…I think you have a great story here. The concept is unique, the story well thought out. You have obviously put much time and effort into developing an epic tale, and I can certainly appreciate that. I would absolutely encourage you in continuing to develop and write this story. I will caution you a bit, though. It has been my experience, both in pitching story ideas to publishers (I have had the pleasure of meeting with editors from Dark Horse, Oni, Image, Boom, and IDW, just to name a few), and in running a retail establishment, that the best way to get book off the ground, or even noticed, at this level (meaning the new, relatively unknown artist) is to write a short (4-6 issue) contained story. Not that this needs to be all the tale encompasses, but editors and retailers alike are much more likely to take interest in a book if that book is pitched as a complete tale, not necessarily dependent upon them making future commitments. The happy and desired result, of course, is that the book does well for all concerned, and future volumes are produced. Does this make sense?

Again, this all comes from my, admittedly, limited experience. But, I do speak from some experience. I have developed and scripted many grand and epically sweeping stories, intended to go on for dozens, perhaps hundreds, of issues, and almost always I have been met with one comment: ‘Reduce the meat of your tale to a single six issue graphic novel. If we like it, we’ll publish. If it sells well, you can do more’.

The unfortunate, and fortunate, fact is, this is a business. And, even in the realm of published works, as a retailer, I see many great stories and talents go unnoticed by the reading public. It’s a tricky and fickle world, the world of comics. But again, I do not want to be discouraging, and I sincerely believe you have real talent and good story to tell. And you should. The hope is that real talent will eventually be recognized. But, I would urge you to consider the main point of this; Try to develop and pitch a smaller, contained tale. Something that gives the reader a complete story, but also leaves open the larger story you will eventually tell.

Just my opinion. Take it for what you will.

I do wish you all the luck in the world and, as a retailer, will do what I can do to promote and sell your work. I know you had discussed retailer incentives with my partner. Though they are appreciated, I agree with his primary stance…the best selling point is a quality book. That should be your first concern. And, from what I have seen, you are achieving that.

Thanks again for contacting us, Nick. I appreciate hearing from new creators. Best of luck to you!

Sincerely,

John Arnold

  Comicopolis

  829 Front St.

  Santa Cruz, Ca. 95060

  phone: (831) 427-1929

  webmaster@comicopolisonline.com

Thanks for all the compliments, John.  And congratulations on your endeavors (I love Top Shelf)!

I think, when you talk about how large Tiny Life is, you’re referring to the letter that accompanied the preview links.  This first novel, l(a, is only 104 pages long.  It’s a five-issue story arc.  Although the series itself is set for around 3000 pages (and now that I look at it again, it might be closer to 2000 or 2500, depending on how much I can cram onto a page), there are 10 books in the series with varying lengths. 

I think your concern is well-founded; I know I often won’t concern myself with a large series unless I know it’s worth my time.  I imagine that’s how publishers, editors, and retailers think too.

Fortunately for me, since Sliver ltd. is my company, I only have to deal with the latter of the three.  Fortunately for me, of the three, the latter is the only one whose opinion matters.

Thanks for your time and critique.